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by edmond_dantes 4843 days ago
I am feminist. As a visible minority, heterosexual, cisgendered, able-bodied man I try to be acutely of my own prejudices and cognitive biases.

I sympathize with women who experience hostility and chauvinism at tech conferences. "Brogrammers" and male-exclusive behaviour is bad for the industry and should be written about and exposed.

What these two men did was not sexist. It was unprofessional but it was not exclusionary. Penis puns can be made by anyone and these comments were not meant for an audience, just the two people in question. While not "appropriate" it's not the same, "it's a joke" defense that many make because the subject matter, a play on the words being euphemisms in not material that excludes or generalizes.

Dongles = Penis, Box = Vagina (or workstation), Forking = fucking, etc... is not NECESSARILY exclusionary but of a sexual nature. Context matters. Based on the comments, she took forking out of context. IMHO: These men should have been told that they're a little loud and to knock it off (regardless of the subject matter). They are bot being chauvinists and not being exclusionary.

The firing is unfortunate but they sound like a company you don't want to work for anyway.

Adria was out of line for taking the photo but she's within her right to document her life/encounters. It does open her up to criticism. Personally I'd avoid her because of her inability to judge context and be easily offended. This incident hurts her credibility and I wouldn't trust her opinion in future incidents.

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It looks like those that say the goals of feminism are to create a privileged class of women have some evidence. Women can now rule men by right of whether or not they are "offended" (note, that only the offense of protected classes are holy, and men are not a protected class).
What evidence did you find in my comment that privileged women over men? Adria was offended and I disagreed with her assessment of sexism and exclusion.

What your describing isn't feminism, but some kind of matriarchy where we must appease and not offend the ruling class of women.

If a man gets offended, nobody gives a care.

If a woman gets offended, it's a corporate crisis and you have to fire the guy responsible and publicly apologize.

There's some real bad harassment and sexism out there. But we need to be careful what we label. The fact that someone took offense isn't the standard by which it ought to be judged.

Quoting Adria from a comment in her post: > I don't consider myself a feminist.