[augustl]

My takeaway from the presentation at Clojure West is that Pedestal is a generic perception library, and rendering UIs is just one of many things it will be used for.

Also, this is very alpha stuff, so many of the details are yet to be worked out.

[abp]

Really? In the podcast they say it's similar to what they used for over a year in production, made available to get feedback from others and that's why it's released as alpha.

[rkneufeld]

Ryan from Relevance here. It is true some of the ideas behind pedestal have been around for a couple years, but always as tweaks and hacks over top of existing frameworks. Every project has had its own unique and most importantly, local, implementation.

Pedestal is a culmination of those efforts into a new set of libraries. Some of the code from other projects inspired what there is today, but an even greater portion was created from scratch to make it more generally applicable. We haven't had the chance to use this incantation of the ideas in production yet, but we wholly intend to. We hope this experience, and that of the community, can help us bring this to beta or fully production ready.