[airlocksoftware]

This looks very interesting -- I don't love the web development story in Clojure/ClojureScript right now, so I'm excited for anything that makes it easier. And I get that this is an alpha.

That said, one of my biggest pain points with Clojure is poorly documented libraries. This NEEDS a high-level description of what is provided and where, and the example app needs a lot more documentation so I can figure out what it's doing.

EDIT: Whoops, I found the link to the full documentation:

http://pedestal.io/documentation/

Much better. I still wish the sample chat app had more documentation, but if I have time I'll try to contribute that myself.

https://github.com/pedestal/samples/tree/master/chat

[rkneufeld]

Duly noted. It's been a real whirlwind getting this stuff out the door in time for Clojure/west and better documentation is one of our major goals following the release.

- Ryan @ Relevance

[airlocksoftware]

Thanks Ryan. I've read through more of the documentation, and I like what I am seeing. The client-side state management and push rendering looks especially cool.

My play Clojure / Clojurescript stack is a weird combination of libraries like Noir (+ Chris Granger's Clojurescript libraries) / Lobos / Korma / Hiccup / stuff I ripped from Clojurescript One.

The example explains how to use Datomic with Pedestal, and I notice you're using Domina for DOM manipulation. Is that basically the minimal stack for a database driven app? It'd be nice to see an explanation of what the rest of a Pedestal app might look like, what libraries Pedestal might replace (especially something that integrates with Postgres / MySql).

Congrats on the release and a sincere thank you to you guys at Relevance for all of your Clojure work.