[jasonlotito]

People always ignore the refactoring. They also look at the time TDD adds merely in terms of individual sessions. They don't look at the project as a whole.

> Also, don't test stuff that isn't going to break

Hah! =) But how will I prove that i++; is actually incrementing i!

[anthonyb]

Well, if the incrementing is part of a method somewhere, it probably should be tested, but as part of testing the method, not the ++ itself.

Usually it's more like people testing the basic mechanisms of frameworks or libraries. In some cases it makes sense, eg. if a library that you're depending on is a bit dodgy, but usually it's just a waste of time.