[specialist]

I'm interested. Which is a new thing.

Joel Spolsky's live demo of FogBugz & Kiln is the single best product demo I've ever seen. Ever. It's so good, anyone doing demos should watch it, just because.

http://www.fogcreek.com/fogbugz/

(just the video) http://fogcreek.wistia.com/medias/z6o7hhvio5

I don't know if I care about evidence based estimating. And I'm pretty sure FogBugz is overkill for my team's needs. And I'd rather eat glass that do anything Windows.

But hot damn the (apparent) integration and workflow of these two products are quite polished. Very well thought out and very well executed.

[julianz]

Yeah Joel was born to demo/present, wasn't he. I saw him at Webstock some years ago and it was a fantastic presentation.