[criley]

>Are you kidding me? Both sites have users that need to access various portals from foreign countries. That's the basic similarity between the two sites.

That is the most superficial comparison between two disparate industries that I've seen in some time.

Yes, both are websites that you access.

By this context: I visit mobile gaming websites from foreign countries. According to your analysis, mobile gaming == travel industry == healthcare.

You do, of course, realize that the regulation requirements behind the systems that deliver those websites are dramatically different?

Between HIPAA, ARRA, a bevy of other national regulations and 50 separate state implementations of Medicare/aid with additional privacy and other regulations on the state level, I hope you can appreciate that medical software requirements are fundamentally different.

Implementing a medical portal is an order of magnitude more difficult than a travel portal from the regulation and control side alone.

Put it this way: if you leak user data on a travel site, all you might have to do is write mea culpa and force a password change.

If you leak user data on a medical site: the fucking hammer comes down, public disclosure is mandated and _heavy fines will follow_.

These kind of systemic differences absolutely affect the end user UX and the kinds of priorities that developers have going into it.

Making sure spotty data connections work is less of a priority than making sure a secure connection is present when dealing with HIPAA protected data.

[sc0rb]

All I'm saying is... websites and portals that are accessed from devices and connections, in emergency-ish situations, should really have fallback modes so they work when I'm stuck in immigration in a third world country (or hospital).

long haul airline sites and medical insurance sites fall under this category. I'm not talking about this from any other perspective than accessibility under less than desirable conditions.

I don't really see how this has anything to do with American state laws. Accessing a portal that tells an insurance company that I need treatment abroad is a simple. Can you please burst your god damn bubble. We're talking about JS and CSS fallback not the united states of americas various laws in regards to medical records.

Have you ever left the US?

[criley]

Yes, sites whose main audience may view it from those limited connections should devote resources to ensuring that they can access it from limited connections.

I clearly stated exactly that in my first original post in this thread. I said, always know your audience and prioritize your development for your audience. I don't know why you've missed me saying that 4+ times at this point. I guess it's because you want to "win" a debate, even though I made your point before you even read my original post.

>I don't really see how this has anything to do with American state laws.

Because accessing data requires you follow the laws governing that data regardless of where the request comes from.

>Have you ever left the US?

Have you ever programmed before? Do you know what software requirements are, or legal requirements, or any of it?

Honestly, you sound like a layman. 100% end user with zero experience in building a portal or medical software or anything else. "Who cares about laws, I'm talking about css fallback". Well, the people who pass and enforce those laws care, even if you don't. And they will make sure you care sooner or later, if you plan on staying in business.

That's the point. You have to care about laws because they're fucking laws! You don't get to just distribute protected medical data over insecure connections because it's convenient for end users! That's illegal.

And protected medical data IS DIFFERENT from non-protected personal travel data!

I know that understanding that difference is difficult for an end-user, but please respect that the concepts are completely different and pretending that "it's the same" only hurts your ability to understand the additional complexity that security laws like HIPAA introduce.

Please do not talk to me any more. I have no interest in replies and have provided this one because you keep stalking me in other posts, so I wish to provide closure.

If you want the last word, please take it here and no where else.

Please stop following me and posting on unrelated threads, it's extremely immature.

[sc0rb]

You're an idiot, I'm talking about the accessibility of a data entry portal. There's no reason to not make it work in sub optimal conditions if ANY (not just your main) of your user base are likely to be in those conditions.

This has very little to do with data protection laws. I'm not talking about making your data secure, using ssl, redundancy in your database etc. These are all requirements but this is not what I'm talking about.

Simple accessibility in sub-optimal conditions. Stop trying make your small minded opinions the focus of this. Do you even own a passport?

[jdgiese]

haha, criley won already

[sc0rb]

wtf?

I'm right, he's clearly a try hard with no idea what he's talking about.