[fiendsan]

the only problem with this is trust, you have to trust that these companies will do what they say, there is no way to confirm it, maybe all of them are logging and they just say otherwise, and when we are talking about privacy and anonymity thats a bigggg deal breaker!

also just because they do it now, doesn't mean that tomorrow they wont just turn on the logging... if you want anonymity and privacy you can only trust yourself and your own setup, leaving it at the hands of others is a huge exposure, as a sidenote since you are also using the services of a company that might attract the wrong sort of people that also migh expose you to potential problems (they give you up wrongfully, bad logs, payments to that company, the list goes on...)