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by jheriko 4853 days ago
See drones in Pakistan, and collateral damage in the most recent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq - then there is the support of the IDF in Israel. I could go back further but there is little point - it was a different administration, a long time ago etc. even if the same mistakes are being repeated.

The one thing learned from the Vietnam war being made so public seems to be 'control the media better' rather than 'war crimes are wrong'...

Any source of figures I quote is going to be suspect so I invite you to find your own an make your own judgement. I prefer Wikipedia to demonstrate how easily uncovered this information, or at least the suggestion of it is. Some official statements on the matter downplay the issues even by 2 or 3 orders of magnitude...

A quick browse of wikipedia on these matters gives a good overview of how confused the situation is... In particular even US allies do not agree with various statements from inside the US that the number of innocent deaths is as low as 'double figures'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

For Iraq I believe the consensus is that civilian Iraqi deaths outweighed US military deaths somewhere between 15 and 250 times. There is a nice table with cited sources again on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

The cleanest cut case is perhaps Israel, where many Israeli organisations themselves keep track of figures. I think nobody disagrees that the IDF have killed more Palestinian children, than Israelis in total have ever been killed by Palestinian terror attacks. This is an organisation which is funded in part by US aid at a time when the money could be better spent back home helping the economy...

e.g. http://www.btselem.org/statistics/fatalities/any/by-date-of-...

... and yes, going to prison in the US for 30 years would be an improvement in quality of life for most of the world's population.

There is a reason why the US is so often loathed by Arabs and its nothing to do with Islam, fanaticism or oil...