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by slurgfest 4862 days ago
Why would it help to have Smalltalk on an opaque, proprietary server platform which absolutely locks in every project that is coded for it?
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Where on the web can you run Smalltalk right now? Where is the Heroku/Rails for Squeak?

And before you write it, I'll save you the time. Here's the typical HN response to this question:

    Just go get an EC2 instance and apt-get a bunch of shit and 
    then figure out how to use a CLI to push your code there and 
    add framework dependencies and learn Postgres and and configure it 
    for DNS and oh and you probably need a credit card. Not that 
    hard, srsly guys. Also, Dropbox is just git with a shiny frontend.
There is an unfathomably monumental difference between not being able to do something at all, and doing it in a way that is constricted and limited from the perspective of an expert. It's the most dramatic in terms of learning, exploration, experimentation, and imagination.

Lego Mindstorms was proprietary and I loved the shit out of that-- probably was the primary reason I dove into science and engineering. And to your point, everything I built with Lego was (literally) locked into the Lego world. But by the time it actually mattered, I had moved to a legit machine shop. But those plastic blocks laid the foundation for construction. That's what I really want Alan Kay's work to do: lay a new foundation for teaching people how to think about computation and symbolic manipulation with computers.

Have you ever heard of AppScale?