[mitchty]

iterm2 supports mouse input, terminal.app does not.

[johncoltrane]

Using a mouse? In Vim?

[jlgreco]

Absolutely. I use a mouse in vim to resize windows. Much less tedious than doing that with a keyboard.

Good mouse support in a terminal is also nice for elinks, which several of my vim shortcuts trigger (company wide code/wiki searches, or similar).

[mitchty]

Vim sure, more for tmux for me to be honest. Its quicker to resize panes/select things with the mouse at times.

People that take keyboard only to the extreme strike me as adhering to the letter of the law rather than the intent. Whichever works faster for a person is better.

[ddon]

Yes, vim in terminal works really good with a mouse!

[rplnt]

In terminal.

[johncoltrane]

Why for?

[ddon]

Here are few things how I use it:

- scrolling with a mouse wheel

- selecting/resizing a split window

- jumping to a specific place in the code

- making a selection

[illamint]

I think the key is having the option to use the mouse, in addition to normal Vim keyboard shortcuts. If I'm switching back and forth between Vim and a browser, for instance, I have my right hand on the mouse already, and I can scroll with the wheel, select a tmux pane, copy and paste things, etc. very easily. If I didn't have that option, I'd have to switch back to the keyboard. If I have both hands on the keyboard already, I'm probably not going to use the mouse.

[johncoltrane]

All of that can be done much more efficiently without the mouse:

- scrolling with a mouse wheel

    :h scroll.txt

- selecting/resizing a split window

    :h window-resize
    :h window-move-cursor

- jumping to a specific place in the code

    /foo<CR> 

or the myriad of cool things in

    :h motion.txt

- making a selection

    v{motion}

[JadeNB]

> All of that can be done much more efficiently without the mouse:

Surely we don't need to get into this sort of thing here.

If you don't know how to do it without the mouse, then it's more efficient to do it with the mouse. If you don't remember how to do it without the mouse, then it's more efficient to do it with the mouse. If you just like using the mouse better, then ….

Anyway, and perhaps more importantly, it doesn't hurt any of us if anyone else values ease of use (even if it's illusory or temporary!) over efficiency.

[coldtea]

>All of that can be done much more efficiently without the mouse

No. All this can be made with an extra cognitive overload provided by the use of keyboard shortcuts that makes you think you're doing something useful and/or faster than with the mouse.

Especially if you don't need to have your hand at the keyboard at all times (i.e you're just browsing code and not writing), scrolling with the mouse is way faster.

[jlgreco]

I agree on most points, but there is no way that wacking Ctrl-W +/-/>/< is more pleasant than just moving either your index finger or your thumb a half an inch to use a trackpoint or trackpad and instantly get the window proportions you want.

You can of course make nicer mappings, but even then it isn't as nice.

[tomsthumb]

bam

  "narrower window
  map - <C-W><
  "wider window
  map + <C-W>>
  "shorter window
  map _ <C-W>-
  "taller window
  map = <C-W>+

[danneu]

You seem to be conflating Vim and Terminal.

Vim is just one of the many things you can run in a terminal, and just one of the many things you can do with a terminal.

[johncoltrane]

No. I know what the difference is between the two.

And I know that I never use mouse in one or the other. I don't use it for scrolling, I don't use it for pointing and clicking, I don't use for selecting stuff…

REPL? no use for the mouse. htop? no use for the mouse. git/svn/hg? no use for the mouse.

[rplnt]

How do you select text then? I'm sure there are ways, but they are certainly not intuitive and I've never bothered to look them up since I don't do this task as often.

[aerolite]

iterm2 does not let me go forward/backward by word (with the option key). anyone know how to fix this?

[aerique]

This can be fixed by editing the keybindings for your shell. Bash by default on OS X? If so Google for ".inputrc", mine looks like this:

  # See http://www.reddit.com/r/commandline/comments/kbeoe/you_can_make_readline_and_bash_much_more_user/
  "\eOd": backward-word
  "\e[5D": backward-word  # for OS X
  "\eOc": forward-word
  "\e[5C": forward-word   # for OS X
  "\C-f": reverse-search-history
  "\C-F": reverse-search-history  # for OS X
  #Control-F: reverse-search-history
  #Control-j: menu-complete
  #Control-k: menu-complete-backward
  set bell-style none
  set completion-ignore-case on
  set completion-prefix-display-length 2
  set show-all-if-ambiguous on
  set show-all-if-unmodified on

[s00pcan]

I might as well answer seeing as I found this out yesterday. Go to the profile options then the keys tab. Then there is an option for left/right option key acting as normal meta or +esc. While meta sounds correct for this, esc+ was recommended and works.