[yaxu]

One more point from my phone on the train.. I've also been frustrated with people assuming "live" in live coding refers to a live audience. I prefer to think of it as live electricity. But it is just a really easy way to explain live coding to non programmers.. For whom seeing the results of what you are doing, while you are doing it, is the natural way of things.

[seanmcdirmid]

I think we both get annoyed in the same way for different reasons :) But your community is high profile because of performances so that's what people tend to see. It doesn't help that you guys are also focused on music and media generation, applications areas that are disconnected from what programmers typically work on.

[yaxu]

Heh, well I'm happy to help with this situation, wikipedia might be a good place to start.

Are there good examples of live programming literature that doesn't primarily use media generation in its examples? That might be part of the problem - programming with media is an obvious use case for live programming languages, so people assume the low hanging fruit is all there is?

[seanmcdirmid]

User interfaces are the classic examples, but I'm going to bring this to compilers in my next paper. It turns out you can easily generate a programmer-observable output for most programs by putting a lot of print statements in your code (barring some device drivers).