[jorgenev]

> lets keep being sexist, and bash etsy for trying

No, lets stop circle jerking about how progressive we are at the expense of reason.

> If women are discriminated against in IT (and lets face it ...) then there is a huge pool of under-tapped engineers out there

If this was actually true, then people would try and keep it secret, because it could be so profitable. A true "huge pool of under-tapped" resources would sell itself, not have to be pushed so mindlessly.

No one is bashing Etsy; it's just this concept is kind of silly, I could go on Monster.com, search for software engineers and only make offers to the female ones, that would get me an engineering team of 100% women! I am not sure that would prove anything, though.

[lifeisstillgood]

Put a job on monster and see if you get any women applying - in my experience I have never had more than a handful of women applying. Build a complete team? Unlikely.

Anyone from these follow-a-cv-through-HR-to-hire apps got actual stats on application ratios by gender?

I have to admit I never stopped to look at why (the headlong rush perhaps) - most women I knew in IT had come up through the ranks in that company.

And now I think I should look at what happened - I want to know how to get 50/50 applications let alone actual hires.

But sorry. I reject the idea you could easily build a (qualified or even strong junior) team from women only by putting out an ad on a bog standard job site

It seems to take a lot more than that and it may be a mystery why

[king_jester]

> If this was actually true, then people would try and keep it secret, because it could be so profitable.

This doesn't make sense to me. If we say that there is a systemic bias against women being hired in tech jobs, it follows that women will be systemically excluded from those jobs even when they apply, or may leave industry after experiencing discrimination. It follows then that there may very well be a large pool of untapped talent that, by definition, will not be tapped by existing business without explicit attention paid to the fact that discrimination against hiring women is happening.