[jacques_chester]

I lost my 20s to depression and to the aftermath of depression. I used to be grumpy about it.

However there is a thin thread of causality that leads me to the life I lead now. It's pretty good and I think it will get better.

Also: The Art of Manliness is played-out schtick.

Manhood doesn't come from reading about manhood on a website whose incentives are skewed to making you read more.

[saryant]

> However there is a thin thread of causality that leads me to the life I lead now.

While I'm still early in my 20s this is what I've realized as well. I spent much of 2011 battling depression. That year sucked and I used to wish I hadn't had to go through it and that the events which led to it hadn't happened.

Then I realized if that wish came true, I wouldn't have the friends I have today, I wouldn't have had the experiences I had in 2012 and I wouldn't be where I am right now. There's no way to see that line of causality until it's said and done.

Life is strange that way.

[cynest]

My experience has been somewhat different. 2012 was a wholly miserable year for me and I honestly feel that it was rather pointless ordeal exacerbated by toxic relationships I lack the means to escape.