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by stitchy 4887 days ago
Actually, I do recall stories about revolution in Iceland. Which is why I was so surprised to see this article use the word "peaceful" revolution. I recall riots in Iceland making a big stir back in 2009. Indeed, after a quick Google search I found this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Icelandic_financial_crisis....

Snippet from the Wikipedia article:

"On 20 January 2009, the protests intensified into riots. Between 1,000 and 2,000 people clashed with riot police, who used pepper spray and batons, around the building of the parliament (Althing), with at least 20 people being arrested and 20 more needing medical attention for exposure to pepper spray.[3][11] Demonstrators banged pots and honked horns to disrupt the year's first meeting of Prime Minister Geir Haarde and the Althing. Some broke windows of the parliament house, threw skyr and snowballs at the building, and threw smoke bombs into its backyard.[2][3][12] The use of pots and pans saw the local press refer to the event as the 'Kitchenware Revolution'.[13]"

[2] ^ a b Gunnarsson, Valur (21 January 2009). "Icelandic lawmakers return to work amid protests". Associated Press. Archived from the original on 31 January 2009. Retrieved 22 January 2009.

[3] ^ a b c "Iceland protesters demand government step down". Reuters. 20 January 2009. Archived from the original on 3 February 2009. Retrieved 22 January 2009.

[12] ^ "Icelanders held over angry demo". BBC. 21 January 2009. Archived from the original on 24 January 2009. Retrieved 22 January 2009

[13] ^ Ian Parker, Letter from Reykjavík, "Lost," The New Yorker, 9 March 2009, p. 39.

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As far as "revolutions" go, I'd call tossing a few eggs and yogurt and maybe burning a tree or two rather peaceful. There was one night where everything went crazy (when we burned down the Norwegian Christmas tree... sorry about that, Norway) and threw rocks at Alþingi, but other than that, it was mostly just family people banging pots and pans.

In Iceland, it's known as the "Búsáhaldabylting" which basically means "kitchen appliance revolution", if that gives you any idea of what it was like. (edit: you already stated that in your post)

Edit:

To elaborate some more... most of the people who were arrested, or those who were pepper sprayed were nothing more than opportunistic (often young) people taking advantage of the situation. Some of them were self declared "anarchists" or had some kind of "fuck-the-system" attitude. Most of them probably had little stake in what was happening. this was in contrast to most of the peaceful protesters, they were family people protesting how the govt. handled the bank collapse.

These people had just lost their life savings, their house, their car and were left with insane debt. I went, and protested for my parent, whose debt have now doubled because of the inflation. I showed my anger, I threw rocks, I screamed, we were all pretty angry.

But only a very small group of people were actually violent, and you could literally point out who was there for a valid protest and who was just looking for an excuse to fight the police.

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Addendum: What you may not understand is that loans in Iceland are "insured". That's good... if you're a bank, but if you're a n individual, it's bad... very bad.

It basically means that, in addition to interest, your loan principal increases by the amount of inflation. So if the inflation is 5%, voila, your loan is now 5% higher. Now realize that inflation went as high as 18.6%, which means your 4% interest loan just went up 18.6 + 4 = 22.6% in one year.

There are associations currently suing the banks and the govt. to try and make this form of loan illegal.

I wonder if that "insurance" was the same cunning plan as the UK banks selling interest rate swaps alongside loans to small businesses?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21275527

Not quite the same thing but a bad idea for the consumer nonetheless. Our loans are price-index fixed. There is a consumer index calculated by our benevolent government organization that calculates the index based on the sale value of common household goods and essential costs like the price of gasoline. This mean that if the government raises gas taxes (like they did here - twice) that in turn causes your loan interest to rise. Ingenious, right?
The media often misrepresents these things. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, they might simply want to make things more interesting than they are.

At least this was my experience with the recent student protests in Montreal. I attended a few of these protests and my roommate many more. They were mostly peaceful. The ones that weren't were in response to dubious police behavior such as locking protesters in a street and not letting anyone out for extended periods of time. This happened maybe once or twice over the course of a year. I felt safe moving about Montreal.

Now if I looked at the media, especially foreign media, it was another story. Had I not been in Montreal to see things first hand, I would have imagined a warzone. I would have been afraid to visit or live in Montreal. It was amazing to see the students portrayed as violent protesters when they went to incredible lengths to insure everything was done peacefully.

I experienced this same phenomenon, but not for protests, living in Toronto during the SARS epidemic. The city was running perfectly, no one was panicking (I think we had something like 22 potential cases). The only noticeable difference was that I saw a few face masks in the subway. If I listened to foreign media, everyone in Toronto was panicking, thousands were infected. Once again, it was represented as a warzone.

Having been there, I can say it wasn't in both cases. The media often misrepresents stories to make them more interesting. Having read the stories about Iceland (which are rather mild), if the trends I observed hold, it must have been really peaceful protest.

As revolutions go, that is still pretty damn peaceful. Many a football game reaches higher counts of arrests and injured.
EX : Vancouver riots of 2012.