[danso]

So...given:

a) A known person who has stated what he believes in and why he does things b) An organization of unknown individuals, who has stated what it believes, acting on behalf of another unknown individual(s)

You're saying we're in the same epistemological black hole when it comes to evaluating the intentions and consequences-suffered by a) and b)? If so, then OK, that's a philosophical debate that would be really fascinating to discuss on some other day, but pretty much underscores why we won't agree on much in this thread.