[martinced]

That is really weird... Especially the warning about president Hollande about the Google tax.

Why is it weird? Because since free.fr badly messed up and decided to give the finger to net neutrality, a french minister did ask free.fr's CEO to come explain himself and to fix the situation as soon as possible with Google.

Basically free.fr was planning to remove Google ads by modifying the HTML served to users and even the socialist running France at the moment thought that violating net neutrality like that was not acceptable (in their own words it was a violation of net-neutrality and france is very much pro-net-neutrality).

And Orange is an ISP, just like free.fr. Not a media company.

So I wonder if the author of TFA isn't confusing two different things: the right to archive / link to french magazines / publications (like Lemonde.fr) and the net-neutrality issue.

IMHO users are paying for a service and companies unable to cope with the bandwith their users are demanding shouldn't use fake adverts to advertize bandwith they cannot provide.

In addition to that: go Google, wire the entire europe with fiber and let's be done with these lame ISPs ; )

[jre]

Those are definitely two separate problems :

On one hand, there is a peering problems between some French ISP and Google and they don't agree on who should pay for the interconnection costs.

On the other hand, some French newspapers are complaining about Google News.

[pilsetnieks]

To clarify a bit - essentially Google is its own ISP, they are peering with Tier 1 ISPs directly so this case may well be a peering negotiation gone wrong which would have nothing to do with network neutrality.

However, as the case is, it may be very difficult to distinguish between Google the ISP and Google the content provider, and it seems from the article that this might be the case of people confusing Google the ISP with Google the content provider.

[temac]

The article contains great confusion about ISP matters and "content" matters, but I don't see how Orange and Google should give a fuck about "content" matter (including the political circus) when they are negotiating peering agreements‎. If they do somehow, they this would be in very bad faith, but there is no sign they have done so in this story.

[tonfa]

> Basically free.fr was planning to remove Google ads by modifying the HTML served to users

This was DNS based, not DPI/proxy.

> And Orange is an ISP, just like free.fr. Not a media company.

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