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by cabinguy 4896 days ago
This exactly describes the gun debate going on today.

Is it a terrorist or a freedom fighter? = Is it an assault weapon or a rifle?

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I don't think that's really a fair comparison. Assault weapon is a strictly legal term which refers to a specific subset of the category we refer to as rifles. The word rifle usually brings to mind a class of weapons that were specifically not covered by the assault weapons ban.

A more apt analogy would be

Religious Conservative : Taliban :: Rifle : Assault Rifle

My point being that, in this case, it's not simply a matter of perspective. Now, if the debate were much more polarized, one could see something like

Terrorist : Freedom Fighter :: Murder Machine : 2nd Amendment Rights

I think it is a fair comparison. If by guns we are talking about those used to kill animals... / If by guns we are talking about those used to kill people...

The only real difference between an "assault rifle" and a "regular" rifle is the color/design. One is painted black and looks scary. The other is usually wood tone. They are equally dangerous. You can find high capacity clips/magazines for virtually any brand or style semi-automatic rifle (and handgun) made.

Even more basic, I don't think I'm going to be jumped by ninja, but that doesn't stop me from practicing martial arts. I see no reason why someone who likes to shoot shouldn't be allowed to. In fact, I'd rather they learn to shoot safely then not.
"If by guns we are talking about those used to kill people..."

Though the second amendment is strictly about protecting this latter use.

One of the points of having your militia "well-regulated" is that it can now and then refrain from killing people.
Most adults are, by law, part of the unorganized (inactive) militia.
Is that militia well-regulated? I understand that firearms are well- (maybe even over-) regulated, but I'm thinking about the militia itself. My understanding is not as thorough as I would like.
An assault weapon is a legal term concocted by lawmakers who wanted to ban scary-looking guns. An assault rifle is a rifle designed to shoot lower-power, lower-caliber ammunition for use in assaults, as compared to the fewer, larger shots from a typical bolt-action rifle (or, as we like to call them, "Fudd" rifles :)
If I remember my history correctly, assault rifles replaced "battle rifles," which were similarly designed but fired much heavier and more powerful cartridges (and were necessarily larger and heavier). The way I learned it, armies discovered that typical infantry engagements were at distances of hundreds of yards, rather than the mile-long distances guns like the M1 Garand could fire at, and that the weight of the ammunition and recoil of the guns were making soldiers less effective.
Lately, "assault" weapons are (legally) characterized by the amount of ammo they can hold. For example this 30-round magazine is illegal no matter which gun you put it in, whereas the same gun with a different-sized magazine may well be legal. http://www.mediaite.com/online/nbcs-david-gregory-displays-3...
Magazine restrictions are a separate law in most states. California has an assault weapon ban which restricts features such a pistol grips, collapsible stocks, and flash hiders. They have another law restricting the possession of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. Old magazines are grandfathered in, so you can use them in legal rifles.

It looks like the law is similar in DC. Possession of a magazine with >10 round capacity is a crime. Other firearm laws are irrelevant to the case you linked to.

OK, interesting. I know my home state of NH also has an "assault weapons ban" that just bans certain magazines, although we probably have other laws too that one bugged me.