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by DanBC2 4901 days ago
> But there's a question as to whether it's advisable to allow citizens to consume drugs that [...]

The current approach is very expensive, and very harmful to individuals and to society.

Someone injecting heroin will do so whether it's legal or not. But, if it's legal, they'll be getting clean heroin, and clean needles, and advice about how to safely inject, and be in contact with people helping them move down to other forms of heroin use.

While heroin is illegal people prostitute or burgle to get money; they re-use needles in unclean conditions; they inject dirty drugs in sub-optimal places; they have little or no contact with harm-reduction workers.

The costs to society are obvious: people spend many years involved in criminal activity to feed a drug habit. Police spend a lot of time tackling that criminal behaviour. People end up with life-threatening illnesses, or permanent maiming or losing limbs from dirty needles and poor injection practices.

Treating this as a public health measure is probably sensible. Having said that, alcohol use in the UK can't really be defined as ok.

> That being said, I have to agree that the best way to get rid of illegal activity is to tax and regulate a product so as to provide a trustworthy, straightforward source.

Probably, but look at the huge quantities of smuggled tobacco in the UK caused by the high tax rate.

See, also, garlic smuggled from Norway (not an EU state) through Sweden (part of the EU, which adds a 9% tax for garlic grown outside the EU.)

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20976887)

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20667816)

1 comments

"While heroin is illegal people prostitute or burgle to get money"

The legality of an addictive substance doesn't make much difference to whether someone will commit a crime to get their fix.

Consider: people commit crimes to get money to buy alcohol. People also steal other legal goods they want e.g. TVs, laptops.

Consider: people commit crimes to get money to buy alcohol.

How can you consider that, without also considering that most people don't? Price does make a difference.

I don't really see how that's relevant.

I was responding to the point "people commit crimes to fund their drug habit because drugs are illegal".

One way of verifying this (without de-criminalisation) is to compare drug usage to alcohol usage, and the crime rates of people funding either habit.

It's a hard study to do because there are other factors in play e.g. a pimp keeping his prostitutes dependent on drugs is a different situation to people prostituting to buy drugs.

One way of verifying this (without de-criminalisation) is to compare drug usage to alcohol usage

That's why the fact that most alcoholics don't commit crimes to get their fix is relevant. Sure, some do, sometimes, but on the whole, it's a vastly different picture; and the price, and not being pushed into shady alleys with shady people has to do with it.

Just consider the Prohibition, and also the experiences of all the countries who partially or completely decrimalized hard drugs, which is generally a success story.