[ChuckMcM]

You should try reading stuff written by Tibetans :-) More seriously though after going through various debates both with Chinese nationals and Chinese ex-patriots the only conclusion I can rely on is that its "complicated" and just as someone from the #Occupy movement might write a very different description of the benevolence of our government than someone in the 1%, points of view are greatly affected by their origin.

[rdl]

Yeah, I'm not really including Tibet. I see that as a geo-strategic thing vs. India, and Tibet wasn't exactly a progressive wonderful state before the Chinese, either.

However, in Western China, non-Han seem to be treated better by the national government than by regional or local. Although the weird "Uighurs in Guantanamo" thing was just totally surreal (we essentially bribed China into supporting us in the Iraq war by letting them classify muslim semi-separatists as global jihadis, and thus cooperating with the Chinese government in detaining them)

[seanmcdirmid]

Tibet was as provincial as the rest of china was before the communists, no doubt. The only reason the Han are hated so now is that the gov is so god-damned paternal about it to the Uighurs and Tibetans, that and a Han manifest destiny.

Hu Jintao was in charge of Tibet during the troubles of 1989, his protege was then in charge of Tibet and took a harder line (confiscating Dalai Lama pictures), and then got promoted to xinjiang where he promptly started a get tough on islam campaign.

Tell me how the national government isn't involved again?

[rdl]

That's not "corruption", though.

[seanmcdirmid]

No, just normal douche baggery :)