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by dsr_ 4918 days ago
It won't be successful if the company pays more in fines than it earned in profit.
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If the US government is involved in the prosecution, we can pretty much guarantee that we will make it worth their while. It's usually something like "oh you made 500m profit from fraud? How about 50m fine, any bigger might make you go out of business, like you would have without committing fraud."
Well, maybe. Uncle Sam tends to look the other way when it's not him being fleeced. But when it is him, holy crap watch out. He'll break you up and sell you for pieces.
Plus, they admit no guilt like the banks!
It was an unartful hack, there were better ways to do this. If they had unloaded a bit, and shipping only portions of biofuel, maybe done some blending etc. they would have a much better defense and likely would have never even been caught.

I worked at Enron on their power trading floor, and saw them do pretty much the same thing with Ricochet and FatBoy which made the nightly news, congressional hearings etc. John Forney the guy who did it got a $4,000 fine and two years probation in a plea deal which he took because it was cheaper than paying his lawyers to go to court.

Anyways this is JV ball vs. what the paper industry has done with Black Liquor that has run into the BILLIONS.

that never happens.
But it's not a real profit, i.e., they weren't selling anything.

The money (in the form of RINs) was stolen from the EPA. You better believe the government will be recouping it.

Not even remotely relevant. Please stop confusing the issue with irrelevant arguments.