[drivebyacct2]

So if things like Arch Hurd exist... Are we just missing the user interest in Hurd or are there usability problems with it or?

[mcartyem]

It's not enough to build something that's better. You also need to sneak it in like a Trojan horse into a user's fortress. You can't easily launch a frontal attack on Linux.

One of the most valuable opportunities with mobile is that current technologies can become irrelevant. A big success for L4 is that it made it into mobile phones.

[wtracy]

AFAIK a lot of it is due to issues as simple as Linux having more device drivers than Hurd.