[philsnow]

A crucial detail that I left out because I typed my above reply on a mobile device, is: note that I first talked about a random sample of _engineers_.

There are tons of people who work with engineers but who are not themselves engineers. These people will be even less likely to think "MVC models" and more likely to think "fashion model".

Another group is the general public or people choosing a college major or vocation. These people have never been exposed to MVC, so they will assume you're talking about "fashion models" with 100% certainty.

These last two groups are exactly the people who you don't (or shouldn't) want to feel automatically excluded.

You may as well paint a picture of the entire "tech industry" with a giant "NO FATTIES" sign.

[DisposableMike]

You cannot seriously be inferring that women in technology deserve such light treatment that an extremely light pun made via a framework reference is the same as painting the entire tech industry as having a "NO FATTIES" attitude.

The tech industry was borne of "geeks" and "nerds" and other such social outcasts. These groups of people were and are still being maligned as "virgins" and "having no friends" and "living in their mom's basement", etc. These tropes are only the more popular the larger and more dense the Internet becomes. But where is the outrage for the maltreatment of these individuals, who make up a now large segment of society (with the growth of the technology sector)?

Nobody cares, because you either identify positively with that characterization (I'm a real geek!), or there is such cultural inertia that the phrases have become no longer harmful (read: the euphemism treadmill).

Regardless, it's BS to suddenly jump to the aid of an extremely narrow segment of society because of a simple pun. I mean, honestly, despite our society having a real problem with female body issues, does anyone really feel badly for female fashion models? And can you demonstrate a similar defense for another segment of society that you actually identify with and feel needs protection? Because if you can't, then (like the phrase or not), you're just being a white knight because it makes you feel good about yourself.

[ahelwer]

Stop stripping out context. Stop simplifying. Stop reducing. The title, in and of itself, is not indicative of the entire industry having an attitude. When you tie it in with many other things, you begin to see the problem. I'm sure you'll deny there is one though, because it doesn't affect you.

Your bizarre rant about geeks is a problem which does not exist outside of high school and some corners of the internet inhabited by people still in high school. These geeks are not an oppressed class. At all.

I know fashion models. They have problems just like everyone else. Also, stop calling women females. It's really creepy.

You have some serious issues with your worldview.