[defrost]

> a goverment should not simply impose more and more bans and restrictions.

Fair point. I'd argue that a government should work to the benefit of that governments employers, aka its citizens.

eg: In the instance where parent citizens want more control over phones that flood in from outside, particularly when

> both parents are working 40 hours+ each week, [and] they are not able to do this

for themselves.

I can see the appeal of a UBI income and a minimum wage guaranteed to support parents and families on 20 hours of work per week but that doesn't seem to be as immediate and practical a solution as, for example, a government requiring foreign actors to adhere to certain standards, or requiring foreign hardware suppliers to issue child safe smart phones, or opening a tender for functional parental control software for phones, etc.

[Skyy93]

I do not think we will come to an agreement here. For me the current solution feels like patchwork and through this behaviour, which goverments all around the world follow, we postpone urgent policy changes further and further.

Especially that once rights are taken they are much harder to get back.

[defrost]

It's a real problem fumbling for a solution - there is a business to be made here.

> Especially that once rights are taken they are much harder to get back.

American?

I'm Australian and more inclined toward keeping a foot on the neck of government and on task with what the citizens appear to want.

The current lot aren't doing a great job on limiting child access so far, but the situation is evolving.

Should it get to the point where I feel I have to take up arms and go and shoot the people we elected I'd see that as a failure on our part.

[Skyy93]

>American?

Nope, German. Would I be American I would probably phantasize of taking up arms to overthrow the dictatorship, without the realization that I probably just would die since the military is much better equipped than me.

[defrost]

As Australians we veer toward large unarmed crowds and telling 'em to get on with the job or get the f' out so we can re elect new ones.

We have a hybrid UK / US "Washminister" system with mandatory voting, obligatory BBQ's, proportional voting and relative isolation.

That isolation is now being punctured and we're seeing unpopular parties that tank whenever they're asked questions in public suddenly get a boost from being "social media" only and trading on "algorithmic" boosts courtesy of unpopular billionaire backers.

That one is more of a pressing issue, albeit related, than parental control of media access.

[Skyy93]

Do you think we don't do the same in Germany? Might be a bit different system, but I would appreciate if you would not treat me as if I don't know anything about democracy. Voting and protesting might seem nice on paper, but people are stupid or kept stupid, for example crime rates are dropping for years but people feel unsafer because of higher media coverage.

However, now we are talking about something different and this is also something I can support much more. Algorithmic boosts and these slot machine like systems are a problem, which I highly agree. Then a ban of all of these systems would be something you would rather advocate then advocate for selective bans. For example, yeah social media can continue to exist but only a very simple algorithm can be used where a user can subscribe to topics he/she chooses. No recommendation, no trending stuff.

[defrost]

> Do you think we don't do the same in Germany?

My apologies, I was unaware that Germany had a Washminister system with mandatory proportional voting.

> I would appreciate if you would not treat me as if I don't know anything about democracy.

My assumption was that the implementation of democracy varies by country. It was foolish of me not to know that you know everything about every democratic system on the planet and I apologise again for that.

> for example crime rates are dropping for years but people feel unsafer because of higher media coverage.

Well, some people do feel that here, for sure, although it hardly feels like a majority; is that a universal feeling in Germany, that Germans are stupid and easily led by media?

> For example, yeah social media can continue to exist but only a very simple algorithm can be used

The issue there is belling the cat - who are we, in Germany and Australia, to tell a US billionaire such as Musk or Zuckerberg what it is that they must do?