[irishcoffee]

Objectively, the left has this very strong ideology of “education will fix everything, and until then we know what’s best for the masses”

This went too far with the whole woke thing, and resulted in 2 non-consecutive terms of trump, handing the right a litany of power they had no idea how to wield, and they hit every stupid branch falling down the failure tree.

Education isn’t the answer, dictating “I know what’s best” isn’t the answer, doge wasn’t the answer, starting random wars isn’t the answer.

Maybe by process of elimination we can find the answers. I am Hopeful that if the left gets a foothold again in the coming midterms they do not repeat their past mistakes.

Hopeful != optimistic. Lot of angry people out for blood.

[a34729t]

Nah, gonna be populist idiots from the other side.

[inigyou]

What is "the whole woke thing"?

[irishcoffee]

Whatever the media turned it into to get trump elected.

I imagine you know what “the whole woke thing” is referencing and are instead looking to have an unproductive debate. I have no interest in that.

[inigyou]

No, I really don't know what you mean by "the whole woke thing". Since it's load-bearing in your argument, could you explain it?

[irishcoffee]

No. I already said I wasn’t interested in that debate.

[inigyou]

It's load-bearing in your argument, so does that mean you withdraw your argument?