[rswail]

I've been a programmer for 40 years, I've never considered myself to be an engineer.

We don't have the same level of "proven solutions" and constraints and mathematical rigor that engineering has, nor do we have the legal/liability requirements of "Professional Engineers".

I hope that I qualify as the equivalent of an artisan, like a carpenter that makes furniture, that has elements of both art and craft. Even as I've moved up (and down) the hierarchy of programmer/senior/"architect"/manager.

Programmers fit the "craftsperson/journeyperson/apprentice" model much better than engineering practice.