[efficax]

"too cheap to meter" and Luna is still more expensive than deepseek-v4 pro

[jrflo]

It's marketing hyperbole, but Luna is more intelligent per dollar than deepseek-v4 pro. Cost means nothing without the associated capability

[efficax]

is it? i don't know how we measure these things, but here's one measurement that says v4 pro is better than luna: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/gpt-5-6-lun...

presumably it's a much bigger model

[jmolinski]

You are comparing Luna medium to Deepseek Max, when you switch to Luna high it's cheaper per task than DS and has a better intelligence score, which goes higher yet on xhigh and max reasoning levels.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/gpt-5-6-lun...

[lemming]

That’s comparing Luna on medium thinking with Deepseek on max. If you switch Luna to xhigh in that comparison it’s considerably more capable while still also cheaper.

[energy123]

This has already been updated with the new prices?

[pornel]

The intelligence scores are absolute, not per $.

DeepSeek Pro is more capable than Luna regardless of the cost.

[energy123]

There's also a cost graph on the same page and the context of this conversation is cost vs performance frontier.