[xgulfie]

Level 5 automomy has been "only five years away" for 15 years

[heaney-555]

You're probably thinking of Level 4. No one thought Level 5 was coming before 2050 until a few years ago.

And Level 4 is already here, scaling up, while we're seeing the first real signs of Level 5 (Tesla FSD Supervised).

The progress here is staggering - I'm not sure why you're so cynical!