[Cthulhu_]

Yeah, the dishwasher takes much longer to do the dishes than I do by hand, but that's cool. That said, the dishwasher is out of the way.

I don't think we'll get household robots anytime soon. Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

[FartyMcFarter]

> Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

But maybe they'd rather deal with a robot than a human?

[RandomLensman]

Honestly: why?

[FartyMcFarter]

I don't want a person I don't know very well in my space.

That aside: if I'm lucky enough to find a person who's good and reliable, they might move away, switch jobs etc.

It has all the headaches that come with hiring and managing someone, because, well, it is exactly that... If I don't want to be a manager at work (been there done that, happy to let others do it and get the raise that comes along with it), I sure as heck don't want to do it at home.

[nozzlegear]

Usually you hire a cleaning company who sends a person they've hired and vetted to clean, you don't have to deal with all of that stuff.

[FartyMcFarter]

Then I have to deal with whichever random person they decide to send. I can't be the only one who finds this annoying (even if I'm not in the majority).

[RandomLensman]

You'd need to manage the robot, too, I would think. In my experience, I rather manage people than machines.

[margalabargala]

Sure, but others have the opposite preference. Machines tend to be more predictable.

[RandomLensman]

I think machines are just unpredictable in different ways (for example, changes from software updates).

[lukan]

"Machines tend to be more predictable."

Those controlled by LLM's maybe ain't.

Here with google the LLM is even local, but will be fun with the cloud controlled robots, where the company got overwhelmed and silently uses a weaker model at certain times. With fun results.

[micromacrofoot]

I prefer machines

[kibwen]

> I don't want a person I don't know very well in my space.

In the humanoid robot scenario, you'll get a surveillance device with a built-in microphone and camera beaming every intimate detail of your space to the highest bidder. Instead of getting one person you don't know very well in your space, you'll get thousands.

[CamperBob2]

With a robot housemaid, I wouldn't have to get dressed. :-P

More seriously:

- I wouldn't feel obligated to 'pre-clean' anything. Who wants to come across as a thoughtless/careless slob whose personal habits amount to borderline-abusive demands on the cleaning staff? Not me... and where does that line get drawn, anyway?

- I wouldn't worry about stuff being picked up and misplaced

- I have never had problems with maids stealing stuff, but I know others have

- Cleaning can be initiated or postponed as needed, with no dependencies on someone else's schedule

[RandomLensman]

The last point I can get behind as it is a clear advantage, the other ones might need some more superhuman abilities that I'd not accept as given until demonstrated in extenso.

[kibwen]

> With a robot housemaid, I wouldn't have to get dressed. :-P

Well, as long as you don't mind the workers in the robot company's telemetrics department whacking it to your robot's video feed.

[CamperBob2]

They can jerk themselves silly, IDGAF. When the 'Black Mirror' screenwriters get involved, though, I'll require some back-end participation of the financial kind.

(I'm being facetious here: nothing that transmits data out of the house is going to be deployed to run household robots, at least not in my house. Even if I didn't care, I can't make that call on behalf of family members or guests. Then there's the obvious concern that the robotics company would sell the data to my homeowners' insurance company, health insurance company, and who knows who else.)

[icepush]

For the robot to function without teleoperation, sota is for it to be using a model that runs on chips about 5-10x the cost of what is being discussed here. How do you propose for that without transmission of data out of your house ?

[seasox]

Robots don‘t steal and don‘t want a raise.

[RandomLensman]

If there is a subscription in there somewhere, prices could change.

[pertymcpert]

It's ok, we get it you don't want one. I would happily pay $20k-$30k for one if it worked well. I know a lot of people who would.

[lukan]

Also if the robot is ultimately controlled by Musk or Altman?

I do want a robot serviant. But running AI that I control. Here it google says it can "And this profound intelligence can also run locally on-device", that makes it interesting for me.

[RandomLensman]

I might even get one as I like trying new tech if and when, but I have no issue with hiring humans either and humans so far "fail" very differently from machines (as in a lot of software). I find the latter far less predictable and controllable.

[goatlover]

They'll just spy on you along with the smart tv, phone and flock camera at the street corner.

[iinnPP]

The list of plausible answers is long enough as to question why you felt the need to include the word honestly, irony? One example: social anxiety.

[RandomLensman]

Not irony: why manage machines with all the issues that go with that instead of people?

[Marha01]

Tell me you are not an introvert without telling me...

I don't want a person I barely know regularly going all over my apartment. What if they discover... nevermind.

A robot, on the other hand? Hell yeah!

[luckydata]

you don't need to be an introvert to find that line of reasoning short sighted. I'm plenty extroverted and I still don't want to deal with people coming to my house to clean it. It's very invasive and they rarely do a good job. A robot that I can "train" to do exactly what I need and constantly works in the background would be a HUGE value add to my lifestyle.

[bananaflag]

A robot will send whatever they discover to the FBI.

My issue is different: I feel bad with someone working around me while I am lazy. A robot would not pose that problem.

[fidotron]

Humans have emotions. Best avoided.

[RajT88]

It's been said that people who do not have a high EQ gravitate towards tech, because machines are easier to understand than people.

[gretch]

I feel like people who have high EQ should actually grasp the infinite depth and complexity of even the median human.

Just imagine, there’s a woman Alice who cleans your home once a month. On this particular day, she had a fight with her husband this morning on (something completely unrelated to you).

Do you expect her to check her emotions at the door when she enters your space? Or is she going to give really bad vibes while she is moving around your house?

[fidotron]

It's been said that people that say this are transparently trying to manipulate other people, which is why the others prefer to cut off all potential for tedious negotiations.

This is the same reason people prefer buying Tesla cars direct instead of having to make a deal at a dealership. If they all had high EQ maybe they'd prefer the dealership model after all.

[RajT88]

> It's been said that people that say this are transparently trying to manipulate other people

Tech does also attract grumpy people.

The reason this idea stuck in my memory when I read it - is that it resonated with me. To some extent I feel this way.

[terio]

Less liability?

[tartoran]

You think robots can't malfunction or be hacked to do some nefarious things in the household?

[verdverm]

"hey Rosie, the cat yakked on the rug again"

(real-time mess handling)

[sagarm]

The dishwasher is out of the way because you made space for it out of the way. We'll probably adapt our spaces for robots too eventually.

For example, you could store far more things out of easy human reach.