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by mlrtime 2 days ago
You can't imagine any situation where the people are seeing this for themselves? It must be that they're brainwashed by conservative media?
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Of course there are. But how many people were brainwashed by Fox News in the US, various tabloids in the UK, the Bolloré media empire in France, etc. ? My guess is it's there huge majority of them. Like in any part of the world, take some unhappy people (mostly poor but not only), you have a very fertile ground for your readymade enemy stories.
Just last week in Europe we had - Islamist ramming a vehicle in pride parade in Berlin and Islamist stabbing in France - in which three women were seriously hurt.

Do you claim that those didn't happen, were exaggerated or invented out of thin air from the media to brainwash the hoi polloi?

> Just last week in Europe we had - Islamist ramming a vehicle in pride parade in Berlin and Islamist stabbing in France - in which three women were seriously hurt.

What's really interesting regarding this massive disinformation and subversion propaganda campaign targeting migrants and minorities is that the same state actors dump industrial levels of anti-LGBT propaganda in their anti-minority barrage and then when you are faced with a radicalized individual succumbing to that propaganda, all you are capable of seeing is yet again how these minorities are the problem.

While barely even noticing how you are being played.

It's also funny how, even when both attacker and victims are minorities, these events are always spun as how minorities were the attackers. Perhaps that alone should make you pause.

Those hateful islamists are the same easily influenced poor sods from the other side of the sea, converted by other kinds of right-wing opportunists
> You can't imagine any situation where the people are seeing this for themselves?

I am not sure you understand how this works. If you are bombarded with a barrage of fear-mongering content then overtime you are conditioned to interpret even very mundane and innocuous events as being danger signals. Such as LGBT individuals being a threat when going to the toilet or the mere existence of immigrants from specific parts of the world being a threat to your neighborhood's pets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right_pipeline

> It must be that they're brainwashed by conservative media?

It amazes me how you somehow believe in imaginary threats posed by, say, the presence of minorities, but yet you fail to understand that yes there is indeed a massive propaganda effort to radicalize you and people like you.

And this threat doesn't necessarily come from "conservative" media. For decades you have state actors deeply invested in destabilizing your society and causing civil unrest to the point they overtly state their intentions and strategy in the open. Furthermore, these same state actors are also directly engaged in subversive campaigns such as fueling mass migration flows in the Mediterranean

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35706238

But oddly enough that doesn't register as a concern.

It's clear by reading all this that you are arguing against some boogieman you've made up in your head because I didn't say any of those things. The words you write are more of a reflection of you, dare I say look into the mirror when you read this. But then you will just shake your head and think I'm brainwashed all the while still stuck in your own reality, judging people you don't know... because you are exactly what you are accusing. Good luck!
> It's clear by reading all this that you are arguing against some boogieman you've made up in your head because I didn't say any of those things.

Your cognitive dissonance is fantastic. Here you are mindlessly advocating alt right pipeline talking points on how outsiders and minorities are the problem, and then accusing others of arguing against "boogieman" when this fact is pointed to you.

But let's pretend that Haitians are eating your pets, random Mexicans are stealing your tech jobs, and trans people are terrorizing bathrooms. Those are the real problems. That's what you see with your own very eyes on Facebook and Instagram, ain't it?

No counterarguments at all.