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by andsoitis 2 days ago
> US Vice-President J.D. Vance urged Hungarians to vote for the outgoing prime minister, Viktor Orbán,

Hungarians voted Orbán in, but they also voted him out even with Vance influence.

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Yeah, if this is the effect that attempted US influence has, then have at it!

Having said that, it is frustratingly amusing seeing the US going overt with its extra-territorial electoral interference with their recent history of being incredibly sensitive and defensive about other countries attempts at influencing US elections.

> with their recent history of being incredibly sensitive and defensive about other countries attempts at influencing US elections.

That was always the play. You say the things you would do if you were in your political opponents shoes, you talk about how bad it is, how horrible and wrong. And then, if you can manage to get enough political or monied support, you do the thing you said they were doing! After all, they did the thing first, right? It's just fair play, you say.

Rules for thee moment
Canada and Australia election results away from conservatives are result of US "influence"
That definitely seemed to be the case in Australia, but where it's possibly started moving the other way is that a smaller, more conservative (I don't like these political terms, it's not exactly correct but it gets the point across, I think) party than the main conservative party, appears to have taken the main 'conservative party' crown.

There was a good couple of months of mainstream media even touting that they're a threat to the left/progressive/less-conservative party currently in power who won the last election in no uncertain terms (maybe possibly a landslide...?).

It's hard to get a real gauge on it, but there's a very vocal minority that has been emboldened by Trump's anti-immigration, easy answers, point at 'other' as the cause of all the problems plaguing society rhetoric and actions, such that the 'more conservative' are at least getting more airtime, which makes it seem as if they're a "growing base". I know some people who have started talking a bit more openly in this direction.

The only real way to judge is an actual election.

Thankfully, they don't realize how odious they are to anyone not stuck in their cult already.