[mindwok]

This post makes me feel grief. I mean no offence to you OP, this looks like a beautiful desktop and I am sure there was a lot of time put into this. But just sharing my grief.

3 years ago if I saw a post on the HN front page about a desktop environment written in Flutter (or a Swift port of Flutter), I'd be absolutely blown away.

Now, I see this, and I feel nothing. I'm not impressed. I don't want to know how it works. I'm not going to read 300k lines of AI slop code. I don't care about architectural decisions made because they're not made under any true constraints. I'm not even excited about the AI part of it, because I know AI can do this. We could all build this if we just prompt hard enough.

I'm tired, boss.

[starlingos]

There is another angle for this story. Without AI, people like me can just dream about an idea, but never or difficult to implement those ideas. Now it’s just possible: https://starling.build/why.html

[loopmonster]

But that page is also obviously written by AI. How do I know it's actually meaningful and not retroactively justified from the agent already having been instructed to create the project?

[kstenerud]

You won't, because your prejudice will prevent you from looking.

[glimshe]

I know the feeling but only people in our community care about how the software sausage is made. The customer only cares about results and it's great that AI can deliver results quickly. What I'm still waiting to see is evidence of reliability, performance and UX cohesion in these vibe coded applications.

[kstenerud]

Did you look at the starling code?

[lyu07282]

Except for gamers, they are even more virulently anti-AI than this community is.

[emsign]

This community is very pro-AI. Just look at the top news, sometimes it's 3/4 AI topics. AI topics get hundreds of likes, AI critical news or stuff that hints at problems and undesirable consequences of the AI boom only get a fraction of it. HN readers just do not care. The majority here is hyped about AI. HN changed a lot since the LLM boom, not to the better, it got really boring in fact.

[tomhow]

And from others we keep hearing that HN is too anti-AI. Of course neither is completely true. HN is a big community representing a spectrum of views. Few people are zealots in either direction. Most have moderate views that recognize the pros and cons, to varying degrees. No community as large as HN is ever unanimously pro or anti anything.

[lyu07282]

That is true but in the comments there are always negative sentiments, sometimes overwhelmingly so.

[argee]

Great products are made through interaction with humans. Products like this one have barely had interaction with their creator, let alone early customers, and get foisted upon us with the expectation that we will happily download and execute god-knows-what made by god-knows-who, practically guaranteed to have an awful and thoughtless experience.

Then there’s the HNers who love that, nevermind the rules or intellectual curiosity, because they hope to likewise foist slop upon others and their agents and subagents are churning away even as they post their chatGPT "cleaned" comments about how awesome these products are.

These products need to go through a lot more before they come to HN. It’s not even AI-generation that’s the problem. Show at least a modicum of care, or earn trust by telling us who you are and why you made this (no, I don’t mean putting that in a Claude prompt and posting the result).