[PoignardAzur]

> This will not happen though, because these stories are marketing.

The magnitude and the complexity of the cynicism displayed by some people when it comes to AI risks is mind-blowing.

It's like if the NRA reported on school shootings and people said "oh, they probably fake these shootings to make guns sound dangerous and sell more of them".

OpenAI could report that its AI started spontaneously generating illegal porn and sending it to people and you'd still think it was a marketing stunt.

[anon373839]

I wouldn't describe this stunt as marketing: I would describe it as a bungled attempt to manufacture evidence to get regulatory capture, which OpenAI desperately needs. (Bungled, because Hugging Face fended off the intrusion and got their story out faster than OpenAI did.)

[mosura]

It is because a loud part of the doomerist contingent believe only a major disaster will provide the motivation for regulation, so they are practically hoping to cultivate a major disaster. (Given their preoccupation with bioweapons that probably means a pandemic).

This is based on similar thinking to how the world would not have considered nuclear weapons a major threat if they had forever stayed unused.

The irony of the doomer position is it achieves exactly their supposed nightmare scenario of disaster leading to authoritarian world government without any of the supposed benefits, the twist being they get to be the authoritarian world government so they are ok with it.

[PoignardAzur]

So your assessment of the "doomerist" position is that they believe people aren't taking AI risks seriously enough, and that only a large enough catastrophe will wake people up, and your position is we should... Ignore increasingly blatant minor catastrophes to spite them?

[mosura]

This isn’t a minor catastrophe. It is OpenAI being utterly irresponsible by not sandboxing their testing appropriately, to the point it has to be deliberate to provoke uneducated hysteria, which it obviously, sadly, achieves.

Sandboxing processes on networks is not exactly rocket science, and it is something their existing products would readily help them setup.

[dgellow]

It’s honestly something the AI vendors brought on themselves, and the fact the current US government is a bunch of corrupt kleptocrats