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by malikNF 2 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
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Meh, I increasingly hate this tale. This has nothing to do with boy who cried wolf.

This is either yet another doom ad campaign to scare us to pay them or simply them releasing faulty tools and then personifying tools to avoid blame.

I think it has plenty to do with that. The big frontier labs have been crying every step of the way, yelling and screaming to the world about how dangerous LLMs are and how quickly it all can end if they get out of control. None of that's happened; all that's happened so far is regular capitalism stuff. If LLMs ever do actually get out of control to that point, that would be the wolf, but we've all been ignoring the crying for so long that, well, you know.

They've been crying and screaming so loud for years that there's pretty much nothing more they can do to communicate when the wolf actually becomes real. They've been saying "but we actually mean it this time" every single time. They've exhausted pretty much every possible route for it. The wolf is not real. It hasn't been real. For all we know it's on the horizon, but nobody is going to listen to them in order to know that. And when they say "I told you so", well they've been saying that too over and over about small things, so nobody's still going to bat an eye.

At this point, no one will believe it until they see it with their own eyes.

They're the crackhead on the streetcorner proclaiming doom at this point.
> They've been crying and screaming so loud for years that there's pretty much nothing more they can do to communicate when the wolf actually becomes real.

1.) There was no change in how real the wolf is.

2.) They, literally they, are the wolf. Not "roque ai" or some other bullshit.

3.) Of course I still dont believe them.

> There was no change in how real the wolf is.

That's exactly my point. It hasn't changed for so long, despite all their crying and screaming, that I don't believe them either.

To be perfectly clear, "the wolf" here would be AI becoming a genuine existential threat to humanity that cannot be contained or controlled in a meaningful sense. That's what I refer to in my original comment, and also what the labs have been crying so much about.

A frontier lab today is not that threat because they can choose to shut off their systems at any time. It currently remains a people problem and not a technology problem. There's no self-improving technology that can also replicate itself to evade containment, yet.

But they've been crying about the possibility, constantly, incessantly, and of course saying they need more money about it too. That's just what corporations do. But because they've been crying so much about something that literally does not exist, their cries have just become pointless noise to me. I have considered them eyeroll-worthy marketing stunts for a while.

If one day "the wolf" actually happens, I could not learn about it from the frontier labs themselves, because I would not believe them. They've cried about nothing for so long that I've stopped listening. That's what I mean about having to see it with my own eyes. Until that point, their crying is just pointless, meaningless noise, and there's nothing they can do to change that now.

I get you, but I find the whole "rogue ai" framing insufferable. The company is the wolf. They hacked the other company due to negligence and misconfigured software tool.

They are literally trying to blame a software. It is absurd.

I'm not talking about a specific incident. But I wouldn't consider frontier labs any wolf, honestly. They're mostly just insufferable. I prefer Anthropic's models, but their service is starting to annoy me, especially since they have no response to OpenAI's upcoming faster inference speeds.