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by davidpayne11 4935 days ago
If you are from Chennai, you'll know what the situation is like in there. At any point, in any such conference, people are constantly trying to brand themselves under the guise of 'contribution to the community'. They are always looking to market themselves at any cost, even though they know it is unethical.

I have visited a dozen such conferences and I can tell this without hesitation, even on a public stage. There is a huge difference in the mindset of the organizers over here (SF) and in Chennai.

Kiruba Shankar is also a clever marketer. I still remember the days when he used to flaunt about his TED talks on Facebook. In all honesty, people like him are the ones who degrade the value of TED.

Here's a still that crops of the 'X' in the TED X event. This was uploaded by Kiruba Shankar himself:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=194646852844

(or)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/16461...

Anyone active within the Chennai community will tell you how this man is just a marketer and has no credentials or no 'achievements' good enough to give a speech at TED. And he is just one example.

It is important because, without having significant achievements up your sleeve, you are assuming

1) The audience are dumb enough. 2) You can talk what you want and get away with it.

Here is another example of a 'self-proclaimed' entrepreneur who runs just an SEO business (Ashwin Ramesh)

This guy was DRUNK when he gave this talk. I'm not joking, it's the truth. HE got drunk again with the organizer that night, anyone close to him and his organizer will confirm this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq768Cyeiew

All in all, though this is bad news, I think it's a very good move for the TED community on the whole.

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>>Here is another example of a 'self-proclaimed' entrepreneur who runs just an SEO business (Ashwin Ramesh)

In all likeliness I am sure he would have been considered than because he is:

    a. Rich.
    b. Powerful, to have some say and influence things.
Either a) or b) will elevate you to demi god status among middle class Indians, even if all you have done is sell peanuts well. Its not their fault, Imagine having grown cash strapped middle class families living hand to mouth every month with average lives, and compromising with nearly everything in life in hope of having a better future later.

When guys like these come around, they generally become idols to chase. Now if you tell they made it easily, they are going to have more followers.

And no body likes to mess with the rich. Because they have a lot of strong connections and then when you are need of help or in trouble they can create huge problems for you.

More than rich or powerful, these are people who have become twitter famous and now milking it to good effect.

I saw this a lot in Hyderabad as well.

I always feel guys like these have an innate knack to pick up ways to be early-entry-boys into any about-to-become-famous areas.

I would not be surprised if Bitcoin goes big in India. 90% of the early entry crowd be scamsters.

Honestly, the term entrepreneur and start-up is used very liberally in India. In the last 3-4 years there has been a deluge of 'entrepreneurs' who are basically social media consultants or SEO firms and 'startups' which are nothing but consulting firms who are basically a group of freelancers working together.
A vague generalization. Can you conclusively say that all the YCombinator (or any other similar incubator) startups are groundbreaking innovations?

Given the transformation that technology is undergoing, there are too many low hanging fruits to be ignored. And if you try to define "startup", then you are already on a slippery slope.

Do note that I never said a startup has to be a groundbreaking innovation, nor that people shouldn't take advantage of low hanging fruits. Just that an SEO consultant not call himself an entrepreneur or a group of freelancers call themselves a startup.