[halJordan]

Why on earth wouldn't you? It's clearly a forcible, aggressive, non-consensual attempt to take something. That's an attack in any other terms. It's totally fair if you approve of the attack, and want the attack to succeed. But your preference doesn't stop it from being what it is.

[egeozcan]

> It's clearly a forcible, aggressive, non-consensual attempt to take something

Distillers are not taking anything, they are just making their model learn from better ones - isn't that the whole AI training doesn't violate IP argument?

They just aren't using the tool in compliance with the terms of service. Anthropic could ban them or take them to court maybe. Not an attack still.

[anigbrowl]

Fine, then let's refer to the initial data collection/training as 'compilation attacks' going forward.

...or maybe we stop defaulting to adversarial paradigms for every conceivable situation.

[nextaccountic]

We could call it distillation learning

A model is teaching another here

Everyone wins

[Tostino]

"They are using and paying for an API I am selling...But they save the data and use it for something I don't like! I'm being attacked."