[peregrine]

Yea I agree its a little soon and I am doing well for myself. The problem is that they are rewarding the lazy punishing the ambitious. I don't care that they help with minorities or poor people thats all well and fine. But who says that I'm not poor? Next month I will be making more per hour then my mother and she has 20 years of experience, I'd argue she is nowhere near the middle class.

[mfhughes]

> rewarding the lazy

Have you ever seen a "lazy" person get a grant to go to college and then graduate, or are you just assuming someone who isn't white is lazy, and is getting a handout?

[jerf]

I may not be directly participating in this conversation, but I don't appreciate your invocation of a false dilemma. The situation is more complex than you are implying, and the whole "Do you approve of affirmative action or are you a racist?" line has no place here on HN.

And yes, it is what you are saying. I'm not fooled.

[peregrine]

I don't approve of affirmative action if I am just as poor and started out in just as bad conditions but get treated like cause I'm white my life was automatically easier and college will be automatically easier.

[mfhughes]

> Do you approve of affirmative action or are you a racist?

I don't believe in affirmative action, and my advice of "get used to an unfair world" is consistent with that view. Thanks for putting words into my mouth though.

> I'm not fooled.

Fuck off, chuckleface. Furthermore, don't tell me what has "place" anywhere.