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by illithid0 19 hours ago
Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing.

https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

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I've been running the 27 beta and it fixes so much of the ugliness I hated in Tahoe. Lots of places had toolbars restored, solid areas that indicate where the window can be grabbed. The shitty icon spam in menus is back to sanity. And window corner radii are consistent and less bulbous.
macOS 17 is decisively faster on my MacBook Air M1 16 GB than macOS 26/27 is on my MacBook Pro M2 Max 32 GB. And I don’t mean just the animations themselves but lag/sluggishness/responsiveness in general.
There is no macOS 17.
Gosh I thought I had edited it to macOS 15, now it’s too late
Slower than 15 though
You can almost turn it off on the 27 beta, and 27 seems to perform a lot better too.
You can already turn off most glass effects in 26 via "System Settings => Accessibility => Display => Reduce Transparency".

I had that turned off years ago (for reasons I don't remember), and was wondering what all the fuzz was about when 26 came out because I didn't see much of a difference ;)

IMHO the actual important visual changes in the 27 beta is that rolls back the bizarre oversized corner radius in Finder windows, and they also got rid of the 'every menu item must have an icon' idea.

27 seems superior to 26 in almost every way, although I'm still on a fairly old beta.
I think that is just iOS no? Or does that work on MacOS too
It works on macOS too, I don't own any iOS devices.
It's the first thing I turn off on a new iPhone or iPad. Started around ten years ago in the release which had animated app icons. Induced nausea.
Yep. That’s why it’s in accessibility - some people can’t handle it. Other useful options are reduce motion, reduce transparency…
> this is better than nothing.

Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.

Also on the beta. Agreed. Definite visual and UX improvement over 26, fixing the most egregious issues with 26 implementation of Liquid Glass, but maybe not quite as good as 25 overall.
> not quite as good as 25 overall

Nothing will ever be as good as 25.

Because macOS 25 does not exist. ;-)

Ahhh, my mistake. macOS 15 not to be confused with macOS 10.15
I hear it’s slower? Can you comment on that?
The 27 betas? No, they are generally faster than 26.
Definitely not slow.
I haven't noticed or heard that it's slower.
Nice, thanks for that.
As long as the UI improves and I can ignore all the AI stuff they're starting to push through, that's fine with me, though like many longtime macOS users, I'm not holding my breath for a bug-free experience.
> AI stuff they're starting to push through

iOS 26 anecdote:

A couple of weeks ago, I had a Baltimore Oriole (a cool-looking bird, not a baseball player) in my yard. They aren't rare, per se, but they are uncommon.

Took my iPhone out to snap a picture, and pressed the camera button. I hadn't used it, since upgrading to 26.

It takes the picture. It's there. I can see it, but it won't let me save it. Instead, it wants to tell me about the cool new voice-activated AI retouch feature. There was no way to save.

I probably could have figured it out, but I was so furious, I just nuked the picture.

> though like many longtime macOS users

For those of us older than just 10 years of using macOS, the older Apple OSes have instilled within us the desire to never install the X.0 release and wait until at least the X.1 release. The bug-free experience is a myth

> wait until at least the X.1 release

I think that applies to almost all software, not just Apple OSes. After all, Confucius said: "The only thing worse than old software is new software."