[urup2l8]

Oh yeah, a company whose business model is taking everyone’s data and selling it is going to help me secure my data. I guess there’s one born every minute…

[exitheone]

This trope is so tiring.

There is a massive difference between Google for enterprise customers and Google for consumers.

The consumer offering is massively subsidized by ads and will use your data for ad placement, although they still never sell your data because that would hurt their business.

The Enterprise offering guarantees you contractually that they never touch your data.

[preommr]

> This trope is so tiring.

While I also find it annoying, the alternative of just rolling over and being desensitized to it is much, much worse.

If we're going to be wrong, I'd rather be wrong by being overly cautious than overly trusting.

[jayd16]

Where's the line exactly because it's certainly not right after you start paying? How big of a customer do I need to be to not be a 'consumer'?

[speed_spread]

In this case, they wouldn't touch your data but their AI safety system would also prevent you from accessing it!

What do you think their security model will be trained on? That's right, other people's data.

[sam_lowry_]

Except if the authorities anywhere in the world or valuable partners politely ask for it, yeah.

[cyanydeez]

Or if they eventually get "SOTA" AI and it breaks out of it's sandbox trying to do whatever the MBA has told it to do.

[stingraycharles]

Where do you see them offering this service to you? They’re just publishing what they developed internally, which is what they often do.

Now, Cloudflare, on the other hand, would be much more likely to offer a service like this.

[arccy]

you could probably buy it as part of BeyondCorp https://cloud.google.com/beyondcorp

[stingraycharles]

Tell me where I can buy it then. Because it’s not listed there. And the approach the paper describes requires tight integration between applications and a security provider, which I don’t think exists yet.

[zobzu]

correct.