[embedding-shape]

Lots of "in collaboration with Claude and Anthropic Research" mentions, no mentions of other labs. I'd assume Apple already had access to whatever the most powerful model is at the various US-based labs, but perhaps not?

[woadwarrior01]

Those were voluntary disclosures by two Anthropic researchers and the security firm Calif. I know one more CVE on the list that was discovered using an AI agent and wasn't disclosed as such. I suspect there are many more.

[tombot]

Apple isn’t friends with OpenAI anymore

[muterad_murilax]

What happened?

[fnord123]

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/10/apple-openai-lawsuit-trade-s...

[mrtksn]

The gist is, OpenAI hired a high ranking Apple employee who helped other Apple employees get hired by OpenAI and exfiltrate Apple trade secrets in the process.

Allegedly of course.

[makeitdouble]

> high ranking Apple employee

Jony Ive basically works for Open AI (it's more complicated, but it's a good approximation), and has more or less rebuilt a designing team over there.

He's not the central person mentioned in Apple's accusations but that's arguably the central point that's triggering all of this.

[ajmurmann]

Didn't he live Apple a very long time ago?

[danso]

Yes, the high ranking employee at the center of the accusations is not Ive, but Tang Tan, former VP of product design

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8w379e091o

[alwillis]

He left in 2019 and formed his own company, that did design work for Apple until 2022.

He "took" several Apple employees with him when he left and there's been a steady stream of Apple employees going to OpenAI.

Ive isn’t responsible for all of them obviously, but the articles about lawsuits says there are 400 former Apple employees at OpenAI.

[anonymars]

The accusations are pretty wild

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48865294

[lapcat]

> Lots of "in collaboration with Claude and Anthropic Research" mentions

I wouldn't say 4 is lots. The entire list is massive. I haven't counted myself, but someone claimed that macOS 26.6 has the all-time record with 155 CVEs.

[embedding-shape]

Considering that in Feb 2026 (https://support.apple.com/en-us/126348) Claude wasn't mentioned even once, 4 sure sounds like "lots" compared to nothing :) But you're right, it's subjective ultimately.

[senadir]

Apple also hosts a copy of Claude internally in their servers.

[cromka]

Do they? As in Claude but on premises? Wonder if this is gonna be the solution that e.g. banks will require, exactly like they do now for cloud services (e.g. Azure on premises).

[Cider9986]

Banks are all about security theatre so probably not.

[pbronez]

Pretty extreme solution… you can get Claude models from AWS Bedrock and Google Model Zoo. These are both very helpful for compliance and security, but do require you to have a cloud strategy.

[ainch]

Some data is so sensitive it likely has to stay on premises though.

[cromka]

That's why banks use Azure on Premises (not sure if other providers offer the same, but the investment bank I worked at did)

[UqWBcuFx6NV4r]

Yeah, albeit an increasingly second-rate experience, at least when it comes to Bedrock.

[bel8]

source?

edit: it seems asking for a source it frowned uppon in this site. And it seems there's no source.

[mholm]

I don't believe it's published anywhere, but it's common knowledge to Apple engineers. I can second the poster's assertion that they run Claude internally.

[MBCook]

I know they use it, they host it too?

That would be a very Apple thing to do.

[bel8]

Yeah that's why I asked. It would be one thing to use, another to host.

And it seems nobody has a source so it's just humors as usual.

[mholm]

Yes, they host it on their own infrastructure.

[MBCook]

Makes sense. I’m sure they have no interest in every Claude prompt going to Anthropic to keep eyes on what Apple is up to.

[alwillis]

> That would be a very Apple thing to do.

That's something Steve Jobs would have done.

[MBCook]

I don’t know about hosting it internally but a an Apple focused podcast I listen to (Accidental Tech Podcast) has mentioned numerous times in the last few months they’re using Claude heavily. And they know Apple insiders.

[claiir]

also “ Using GLM From Z.AI”