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by victorbjorklund 4 days ago
Is Claude bootleg AI? https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1e34tkr/why_is_clau...
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I can see how, if all you ever were exposed to was that link and this post, you might think they are equivalent, and the conclusion is "whatever, everyone is stealing from each other.

But the answer is no, Claude didn't train itself on ChatGPT, but Kimi K3 did train itself on Claude.

There has been no accusation that I am aware of by OpenAI against Anthropic, (which are in the same jurisdiction, so it would amount to legal action). On the other hand there have been accusations with extensive detail by Anthropic on how chinese models are attacking Anthropic to reverse engineer and copy their product.

There's nuance if you care to see it, but maybe it's easier to pretend that everyone is ripping each other off so that you can consume a ripoff without seeing yourself as at fault.

point is everyone scrapes data from the internet. Do you think there is at least one page on the internet that mentions Claude as an AI? Well, then it's part of the training material.
Yes, that's why Claude might think it's ChatGPT from time to time, because it scraped a url that contained chatgpt conversations.

But the reason why Kimi thinks it is Claude is different, it's because chinese companies make thousands of fake accounts, fire prompts at Claude and train their models to imitate Claude.

That’s how a smoking gone turns into a water pistol