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by bayindirh 4 days ago
Karpathy doing "vibe check" on models was fine, though. Why they can't do the same thing on something they provide?

We have seen self-criticism and self back-pats here. There's no need to be so critical. Others can test and have their own opinions, too.
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fauigerzigerk 4 days ago
Sure, I mean, I don't care. It's just useless. Not sure why it's upvoted so much. The post is barely intelligible. The information content is zero.

If someone explains really well why they find their own product great, that's different. I don't mind that at all.

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bayindirh 4 days ago
You might see no information, but I see someone having their opinions really moved, in a serious manner. It's not upvoted because it advertises Kimi. It's upvoted because someone tried something different, and genuinely surprised.

I see this as a post from someone who understood the value of "open". Now they're open to understand the value of "free" (as in unencumbered). In the age of AI, we need to understand the value and embrace more open and free, both as in models and software.

It's good food. It's worth thinking about.

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u1hcw9nx 4 days ago
The honest thing is to add a note that tells readers that you are also selling the product you feel good about.

Advertisement is not sharing, it's manipulation.

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bayindirh 4 days ago
They already did, in my opinion. The text reads:

> ...personal account. I work at Modal, and today we just launched Kimi K3 on managed endpoints, and I know Kimi K3 is supposed to be pretty solid, so instead of upgrading my Claude plan, I wanted to give it a try. (I didn't directly contribute to this feature, so I haven't gotten to play with it yet.)

Emphasis mine.

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u1hcw9nx 4 days ago
Yes they did. The point stands. He would never write Using an open model feels surprisingly bad even if that was what he would be thinking.

We can't trust for him to give honest opinion. The information value is near zero.

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bayindirh 4 days ago
When I read the post I read nothing about Kimi-K3. I read about someone who used something open and being surprised about the effects of using something open.

I read about owning the data, knowing the path, being able to control what you have and the lightness it brings. That feeling came through his employer, which is something we can debate all year long, but I see nothing about advertising Kimi-K3 or managed endpoint or whatnot.

Maybe because I'm in all this for a long time, and having an AI capable server near is not something alien to me.

Anyway, in short, there's no AI related content for me in that post. I'm more on the experience side.

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