[SubiculumCode]

Anthropic/Dario getting a lot of hate in this thread, but the argument he makes is rational if you believe for one second that AI is important to national security and that it can, or will soon be incredibly dangerous is misused. People pointing out that this position benefits his company might be overly reductionist in how they think the world works. I believe Dario and Anthropic about their belief that AI safety is paramount because they put serious dollars behind research to improve safety/alignment, not just lip service for others. Those resources could get spent elsewhere but do not. Certainly it doesn't at OpenAI to that degree.

[regexorcist]

Don't be so naive. He only wants a monopoly and a massive IPO.

[SubiculumCode]

It is not naive. Naivety is being overly reductionistic.

[Laurel1234]

Dario is a fascist who wholeheartedly believes Yankee exceptionalism and its divine right to brutalize anyone in order to achieve its goals. Anthropic's models have helped bomb innocents over and over and over again, and will continue to do so.

If you think he gives half a shit about safety you've had a dozen lobotomies too many and should reconsider every decision you've ever made.

[ianm218]

Can you explain how he is a fascist?

[Laurel1234]

Helping a fascist regime blow up inncocents? Partnering with Palantir, the regime's own techbro spin on the SD?

[ianm218]

So do you consider everyone who works at defense primes like Raytheon fascists? How about people who work at Boeing on dual use technology?

I’m in the camp that words have meanings you can’t just call everyone a fascist who you dislike.

[Laurel1234]

Regarding words and their meanings, would you agree the current US regime is fascist in nature? What with the wars of aggression, the setting up concentration camps to put the undesirables to deport, using masked thugs with no badges to kidnap people in the street (and shoot people who protest), disregard for the Constitution and rule of law, curtailing of human and civil rights, ever increasing surveillance? Weird how people really close to the highest echelons of the regime keep getting in trouble for throwing Sieg Heils.

Would you not agree Palantir is at the forefront of this transition towards fascism?

What would you call someone who, as CEO, chooses to partner with said regime and Palantir? And not just in unrelated, innocuous shit, but in actively helping blow up innocents, including triple tapping a fucking school and killing hundreds of schoolgirls?

> So do you consider everyone who works at defense primes like Raytheon fascists?

They are collaborating with fascism, yes. Of course most of them worked in the industry before the current regime came in and made its fascist turn so they didn't set out to do so. Though the industrial military complex still was the main driver of US imperialism and so anyone who chooses to work in it is absolutely complicit in the mass murder of innocents the US has carried out. No idea about Boeing, can't comment on that.

Not that the agency of some working stiff is comparable in any way, shape, or form to that of the CEO of a private company valued at over a trillion motherfucking dollars.

[ianm218]

> Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology. Its core features include a dictatorial leader, the complete suppression of opposition, and the belief that the nation or race is above the individual.

So no the current regime is not fascist in nature. There’s pieces that rhyme for sure but still words have meaning - the opposition isn’t meaningfully oppressed, we don’t have a dictator. Trump is awful but words still have meaning.

> Would you not agree Palantir is at the forefront of this transition towards fascism?

No more towards a surveillance state.

> Of course most of them worked in the industry before the current regime came in and made its fascist turn so they didn't set out to do so

So was Dario in his field?

So yes I don’t think there is a serious argument that Dario is a fascist.