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by fnord77 1 day ago
resource extraction

stealth colonialism

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The alternative is western colonialism Africa experienced before, and bombing campaigns.
Western colonialism is better than eastern colonialism tho. Look at the Russian orgs in Africa.
Single counterexample for single counterexample: Belgium's Leopold - not sure if Western colonialism is so much better (and notice I didn't even bring up "western India")
Not so much better but better in general compared to the middle eastern/eastern colonialism.. westerners have good competiton that the atrocities will be self corrected by itself but middle eastern/eastern colonies needed external western support like Korean war, hiroshima/nagasaki.. main example I can think of opposite is china under deng but there too deng had become relatively capitalist to fix the issues.
Better for whom? Certainly not the colonised...
Yeah for the ones who get colonized, western ones were better than eastern ones. Japanese ones would've made Britishers look like kids when they were occupying eastern India.
You just put Russia and Japan as "Eastern"; they have nothing to do with each (and I would consider both as more Western than Eastern regarding imperial/colonial matters) other nor with China. China is a massive country that has always been massive and rich. Their style is more like the tribute systems they had before, as it is being observed in the BRI and other projects.
I understand China but in no way were japan and Russia close to western. IJA, MAO and soviet union makes westerners look like chuds. Russians still have the wagner group shit which is nowhere near what western countries have currently.
You know the British invented the concentration camp in Africa, right?

We're told a relatively benign version of our history. You kinda have to travel to the countries involved to get the real version.

Even with all the downsides of being colonized by Britain, it was still far better than being colonized by Belgium. Heck, being colonized by pretty much anybody but Belgium was better than being colonized by Belgium. Read up on the Belgian Congo sometime: it was a parade of horrors.

GP was making a relative comparison; pointing out that both were bad in absolute terms does not negate the point. -2 is still greater than -17.

Who cares who invented it first. Who did it best? Japans concentration camp was unholy abomination and it doesn’t get enough attention today
How can you see the road not taken?
You check existing conditions and extrapolate.
"whatever happens we have the maxim gun"

Well if we take India as an example we have the Bengal famine.