[matheusmoreira]

> for anyone

Except the US government, right? They totally get to use AI to survel us, build autonomous weapons, you name it.

To hell with that. I want models that can rival the US government. It's the only way to defend myself.

[JoshTriplett]

Quoting my comment that you replied to and directly ignored:

> (Note, because some people misinterpret statements like this: I said "shouldn't exist for anyone", not "shouldn't exist except for some people".)

That means "shouldn't exist for governments" too.

[matheusmoreira]

Too late for that. It already exists. There is no way to unexist it. As such, any attempts to limit civilian use of this technology will directly lead to corporate and government oppression powered by this technology.

[JoshTriplett]

1) We can prevent larger models from being made.

2) We can treat them the way we treat uranium refining operations: too dangerous to be allowed to exist.

[matheusmoreira]

> We can prevent larger models from being made.

Do that and I guarantee some CIA goons will make the larger models in some black site either way. We're not "preventing" anything.

We're in a full on arms race, and unlike nukes, powerful AI models are a strategic capability at the individual level. Everybody's got a stake in this. Anyone who ignores this stuff is probably not gonna make it.

> We can treat them the way we treat uranium refining operations: too dangerous to be allowed to exist.

Too dangerous to be done by anyone other than the government and their "trusted" corporations, you mean.

[JoshTriplett]

> Too dangerous to be done by anyone other than the government and their "trusted" corporations, you mean.

Seriously, try reading my comments rather than assuming what they say: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49077577

[matheusmoreira]

I read them just fine. I was trying to interpret them charitably. You're contradicting yourself. You just claimed we all collectively treat uranium refinement operations as too dangerous to exist. Not only do they exist, they are regulated by governments so that only trusted people are allowed to do it.

[barnabee]

Without international agreement and cooperation, which is not happening, we can’t

[1970-01-01]

Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) lapsed on June 12, 2026. They don't get to do anything they want.

[matheusmoreira]

The US is bold enough to surveil its own citizens despite their constitutional rights. They're not just going to suddenly stop surveilling the rest of us just because some law expired.

[afthonos]

With an AI model and what army?

[jimbokun]

Just like those militias are going to defeat the US Armed Forces!

[matheusmoreira]

The idea is to defend ourselves in the digital domain so they can't dragnet surveil us, not to win a literal war.