[comboy]

> We should not sell powerful chips or chipmaking equipment to China

This is so short-sighted given that the US needs China equipment for.. everything. They are part of the supply chain needed for building the machines that build these very chips.

[polski-g]

Jensen was right. We should have sold chips to China so they'd be depenent on us.

Now they have their own chips and most of Nvidia product line is internally banned.

[cbreynoldson]

It's unlikely that China would've become completely dependent on us in either case. They're good copycats, with incredible talent in engineering and manufacturing. They're aware that we depend on them for a lot - I think they'd be similarly aware of the risk of becoming dependent on us.

[Laurel1234]

The copycat shit is 20 years past now. China has been leading in innovation in a bunch of sectors.

[throw1234567891]

Thanks to shit they copied.

[sumedh]

> Now they have their own chips

I never understood that argument, are you saying Chinese companies are not going to build their own chips if they get access to Nvidia chips?

[matheusmoreira]

They were, just not as quickly. The export controls directly accelerated their development.

The general rule is: USA bans China from having thing, they make their own version of whatever that thing is. USA bans China from the ISS, they make their own space station. USA bans China from having ASML, they make a Manhattan project to clone it, the "20 years behind the west" line is history. They ban GPU exports, they just start making their own GPUs.

I gotta respect the chinese. I wish my own country had the balls to do this.

[one33seven]

Why would it be a good thing if the world was even more dependend on the USA?

US hegemony is one of the biggest problems of our time.