[bryanlarsen]

lib-left by American standards. Probably roughly center by global standards.

[znpy]

As an European: in the last 10-15 years the American left went much further left, it’s getting unironically exteemist.

So no, not really center bu European standards.

[bryanlarsen]

How? The big actions of Obama & Biden would be considered center-right by European standards, bills like Obamacare and the Inflation Reduction Act.

They certainly seem well to the right of Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act or Carter's pardoning of draft dodgers.

[Sohcahtoa82]

What the hell did Biden or Obama do that was extreme left?

We can't even get universal healthcare passed.