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by lenerdenator 1 day ago
What would it take to get an American open model to compete with this?
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Latest "big" release from any of the bigger American lab must have been GPT-OSS-120b I think? Released ~summer 2025, so pretty much one years ago. Doesn't seem like it'll happen by itself, so something either forcing their hand figuratively, or something forcing their hand literally.

Personally I was wishing/hoping for one of the recent Gemma releases to be in the ~100B class at least, but sadly Google is keeping that all for themselves.

NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Ultra-550B-A55B was released in June 4th 2026 and I think it was the largest open US model until thinking machines' Inkling (975B) was released a couple of weeks ago.
the longer i read this comment the wronger it gets
Don't make me add more of my thoughts to the comment, I can still edit it.

Deeply fun "care about improving people's lives" quote on your user page :p

how is 2025 two years ago? GPT-120b is not even close to the biggest recent American release, etc. etc.
2025 is 10 years ago in AI time.
Yeah, besides that, the only big other open source US model that was worth looking at was Inkling (975B params), Jul 15, 2026.

https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/introducing-inkling/

August 2025.
Bah, of course, thanks :)
if it's to be believed, it's so easy. you distill it, and you have a copy in 2 weeks, isn't that what China is doing? so 2 weeks from now, we should have one.
MSL or SpaceXAI open sourcing one of their coming big models is pretty likely, both are fans of open source and there’s gonna be competition to be the American Kimi
Inkling is in the ballpark
An act of G̶o̶d̶ Congress?
A rogue employee with a USB stick.
Something beyond my imagination