[eru]

Yes, our current systems are likely still to primitive to be properly conscious. Probably.

But I wouldn't rule out that ChatGPT 10 or Claude Fable 15 might get conscious.

[prmph]

You are committing a type error.

Consciousness does not necessarily arise from computation, just as simulating snowfall on the computer does not make it cold

[eru]

I'm with Turing on this one.

[perpetuallunch]

We can’t measure the temperature of consciousness like we can the temperature of simulated snow.

As you write consciousness does not necessarily arise from computation, but it may, at least to some degree, we don’t know. We don’t have reliable methods of testing for the presence or absence of consciousness, or even a rigorous and agreed upon set of metrics to measure.

Where as simulated snow is most certainly not real snow at all.

[mnewme]

Nope, only if the architecture changes. Still probabilistic prediction models