[hn_submit]

Yeah, but without a jury O.J. Simpson never would've walked out of court a free man.

For example in Europe when someone dies somebody always has to go to jail, even if they were defending themselves or responding to a potential threat. A jury could show compassion or empathy. Judges are extremely stoic in that regard.

[chasil]

This reference from Germany indicates that self-defense is lawful even if it ends the attacker's life, as long as the violence is not excessive for the situation.

https://se-legal.de/services/criminal-defense-lawyer/self-de...

[hn_submit]

They'll always rule that the violence was excessive. They'll say you could've slapped him in the face or disarmed the attacker.

The only ones getting a free pass are criminals. When they shoot and kill each other judges usually rule that it was self-defense. Ordinary people...no such luck.

Besides in Europe you always have to use physical violence to kill someone because firearms are illegal.

[lefra]

> in Europe when someone dies somebody always has to go to jail

Please cite the european law that states this.

[hn_submit]

There's no specific law, but a judge will always jail you for manslaughter.

[lefra]

No one went to jail when my grandparents died. Stop spreading lies.

[UncleSlacky]

The well-known country of Europe with its single set of laws? That Europe?

Self-defence can be a valid justification for manslaughter, at least in the UK.