[Tadpole9181]

I mean, insult me all you want, but you'd be pissed if your mechanic didn't use code readers or your carpenter used hand drills to pad their hours.

I do hand programming for myself now and use the right tools in my office, because I'm a responsible adult who understands that I am not paid to have fun or feel special and smart - it's to produce a product for my employer.

[throwatdem12311]

I’d be pissed if my mechanic wasn’t using code readers because code readers are forced on them by manufacturers, that doesn’t mean I wouldnt prefer a car that doesn’t need code readers at all.